Brexit: This deal or no deal?

Anthony Dworkin speaks with Douglas Alexander about the proposed withdrawal agreement, whether it will get through parliament and what might happen if it doesn't.

Midterm elections: Will US foreign policy change?

Mark Leonard speaks with Craig Kennedy, Jeremy Shapiro and Anna Kuchenbecker about the election results and Donald Trump's tenure. The podcast was recorded on 8th November 2018.


The Great Delusion by John J. Mearsheimer

Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari 

Lords of the Desert by James Barr 

The Coming of Democracy by Mark R. Cheathem 

A world without Angela Merkel

What does Angela Merkel’s decision to stand down as leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) mean for Germany and Europe? Mark Leonard discusses with Josef Janning and Susi Dennison the political implications, and expectations for party leadership: Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, Friedrich Merz, Jens Spahn.

The podcast was recorded on 31 October 2018.



ECFR’s EU Coalition Explorer 
Counter-Revolution - Liberal Europe in Retreat by Jan Zielonka 
Fauda, Netflix

Close Contact? Coalition Building in the EU

ECFR’s EU28 Survey reveals the interactions, perceptions, and chemistry between the 28 EU member states. This week, Mark Leonard joins Josef Janning, Christoph Klavehn and Almut Möller to discuss findings of the expert poll that will be published in the “EU Coalition Explorer” on Thursday, 30 October 2018. 


- EU Coalition Explorer (Stay tuned for the new edition on 30 October)

- Country analyses with data from the EU28 Survey by Josef Janning and Almut Möller 
- Poems by Tomáš Kafka 

- 1815 Waterloo by Thierry Lentz

This podcast was recorded on 25 October.

The disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi

Mark Leonard speaks with Asli Aydintasbas, Jeremy Shapiro and Julien Barnes-Dacy about what effect the incident might have on relations between Saudi Arabia, the US and Turkey. The podcast was recorded on the 16 October 2018.


The Jungle Grows Back by Robert Kagan

The River of Doubt by Candice Millard 

Lords of the Desert by James Barr 

Khashoggi disappearance: Time for an independent investigation by Julien Barnes-Dacey 

The Sahel: A transit region for migration

Mark Leonard speaks with Shoshana Fine and Andrew Lebovich about what is Europe trying to so in the Sahel.


The Good Immigrant by Nico Schuettler

From Empires to NGOs in the West African Sahel by Gregory Mann

Halting ambition: EU migration and security policy in the Sahel by Andrew Lebovich

The sanctions weapon

Mark Leonard speaks with Erica Moret and Manuel Lafont Rapnouil about European sanctions policies, secondary sanctions and counter measures. The podcast was recorded on the 27 September 2018.

Keeping Europe Safe after Brexit - Findings of a reflection group led by Marta Dassù, Wolfgang Ischinger, Pierre Vimont, and Robert Cooper. Edited by Susi Dennison 
Cassandra by Christa Wolf 
Un publicista en apuros by Natalia Moret 
Why Europe should focus on its growing interdependence with Africa by Jeremy Cliffe
La Rue vers L’Europe by Stephen Smith

UN General Assembly 2018: What will be discussed?

Mark Leonard and Richard Gowan go through the likely talking points at the meeting and discuss what might be on some countries' hidden agendas. The podcast was recorded on 19 September 2018.


The Secret of the World: A History of Intelligence by Christopher Andrew

Enough Said by Mark Thompson

The Idlib crisis – Can Turkey and Europe avert disaster?

Mark Leonard examines the looming Syrian-Russian military action in Idlib in discussion with ECFR experts Asli Aydıntaşbaş, Julien Barnes-Dacey, and Almut Möller. What do Turks and Europeans make of the possible humanitarian and geopolitical consequences?

The tiger who came to tea by Judith Kerr
Into the Hands of the Soldiers: Freedom and Chaos in Egypt and the Middle East  by David D. Kirkpatrick
The Death of Truth: Notes on Falsehood in the Age of Trump by Michiko Kakutani
Francis Fukuyama Postpones the End of History by Louis Menand

The podcast was recorded on 12 September.

A new European payment system?

Mark Leonard speaks with Mark Schieritz from Die Zeit and ECFR's Sebastian Dullien about a new framework for transatlantic relations. The podcast was recorded on 6 September 2018.

Crashed by Adam Tooze

The Book of Why: The New Science of Cause and Effect by Judea Pearl  

The German barrier to a global euro by Sebastian Dullien 

Weg vom Dollar by Mark Schieritz 

Es reicht! by Tina Hildebrandt, Kerstin Kohlenberg, Jörg Lau, Mark Schieritz und Michael Thumann 

Turkey's financial and economic crisis: A bail-out?

Mark Leonard speaks with Oksana Antonenko, Director for Global Political risk Analysis at Control Risks, and ECFR Turkey experts Asli Aydintasbas and Almut Moeller about the current crisis in Turkey. The podcast was recorded on 31 August 2018.


To Go Forward, Turkey Must Look Back by Daron Acemoglu 

Notes on a Foreign Country: An American Abroad in a Post-American World by Suzy Hansen 

The House of Government: A Saga of the Russian Revolution by Yuri Slezkine 

East West Street: On the Origins of "Genocide" and "Crimes against Humanity" by Philippe Sands 

Podcast "Stimmenfang" - Sachsen, wir müssen reden! 

Summer series: New Power

Mark Leonard and Susi Dennison speak with Jeremy Heimans about his new book, and the old and new ways to achieve intended effects. The podcast was recorded on 27 July 2018.

Summer series: European strategic autonomy

Mark Leonard speaks with Bastian Giegerich, Director of Defence and Military Analysis at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, about the three baskets that form strategic autonomy: decision-making, capabilities and defence industrial capacity. The podcast was recorded on 27 July 2018.

Summer series: Political and strategic dimensions of European sovereignty

Mark Leonard speaks with Francois Godement and Jeremy Shapiro about what kind of leverage Europe can have over America and other great powers. And should Europe behave differently in institutions such as G7 and UN? The podcast was recorded on 26 July 2018.

Summer series: Military and security dimensions of European sovereignty

Mark Leonard speaks with Tomas Valasek and Nick Witney about what the real military dependence of Europeans on America looks like and what is possible within the existing security budget. The podcast was recorded on 26 July 2018.

Summer series: Economics of European sovereignty

Mark Leonard speaks with Jean Pisani-Ferry and Guntram Wolff about the economics of European sovereignty in a new world disorder. What are Europe’s vulnerabilities, where is it not sovereign? The podcast was recorded on the 26 July 2018.

Donald Trump, Master Strategist or Master of Disaster?

This week, Mark Leonard and Jeremy Shapiro discuss how the Chinese view Trump, fresh from Mark's trip to China, and how the Big Lebowski explains the Helsinki Summit.


François Godement:
Trump cannot bring Europe and China together
The Trump opportunity: Chinese perceptions of the US administration

Doreen Baingana: Tongues of fire. (Forthcoming)

Kori Schake & Jeremy Shapiro: How the Big Lebowski Explains the Helsinki Summit and the International Order

TV stand:
Bobby Kennedy for President
The Big Lebowski 

Tell us what's on your bookshelf, and why! Each episode, Mark Leonard will pick the most interesting ones to present. To submit, write to 

How are Europeans seeing Trump’s performance at the NATO summit?

Jeremy Shapiro covers for Mark Leonard and speaks with Ulrike Franke, Manuel Lafont Rapnouil and Piotr Buras, about what this means and what the Trump-Putin meeting might bring. The podcast was recorded on 12 July 2018.

Esprit Journal
Communique from NATO Summit 2018
The Swan King: Ludwig 2. of Bavaria by Christopher McIntosh 

Is Libya falling apart again?

Mark Leonard speaks with Julien Barnes-Dacey and Tarek Megerisi about the Libyan conflict, the impact of the Paris summit, and Europe’s fight over migration policies in the country. The podcast was recorded on 29 June 2018.

No Turning Back by Rania Abouzeid
Wind, Sand and Stars by Antoine Saint-Exupery
How Democracy Ends by David Runciman